Automotive Business Talk Automotive Business Talk    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Which Year windstar 2002 or 2003 Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 63, 64, 65  Next          Automotive Business Talk Forum Index -> Ford View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Server Guest Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Which Year windstar 2002 or 2003 #### Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor dh Guest Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Which Year windstar 2002 or 2003 "Haggar" <haggar@nb.sympaticoNOSPAM.ca> wrote in message news:d1zGh.5295$PV3.52545@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... Quote: I am looking at 2 of these, the 2002 has 53,000 kms LX model, while the 2003 Sport has 92,000 kms mostly highway. What I have read on the 2002 seems to be a better model. Any opinions? I happened to look at the latest CR today, the 2002 looks like it's doing slighly better in reliability history, than the 2003. Given that the 2002 also has fewer miles - and I'm presuming both are off warranty - personally, I'd think the 2002 is the better bet. Drive the hardest bargain you can. Any money you can save now will probably be wanted for repairs sooner, rather than later, whichever Windstar you choose. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Jonno Guest Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Lincoln electrics I think the WOW factor is pretty honest. While the other opinion is a little prejudiced, mind you I'd find myself overwhelmed myself if I owned one. But this one left me in the middle of the big city, outside a large theatre waiting for an hour in the rain for a VIP, which was a KEY of all things. And my party was pretty sozzled by the time we got them home. They waited in a food plus drink place.... El Bandito wrote: Quote: Steven Stone wrote: The upkeep of these cars is phenomenal. You cant |just junk them for these sort of problems. | Lincolns have never been designed for longevity or technical excellence. I suspect they are built for "WoW" factor. To lure people with too much money who purchase a new car every 2 or 3 years. I tend to disagree... I've seen one at my dealer's with about 400,000 miles on it tonight (TownCar) Those are built on the same platform as Police Interceptors (Crown Vics) and Grand Marquis. Those things are body-on-frame, '60s tech (reliable and sturdy) and are really, really tough... (Honda Civic killed itself rear-ending mine, I might have to replace the bumper cover because of a really nasty scratch and one of the backup-light covers has a little crack in it). The jerk was talking on his cellphone, about serves him right :) We are talking about cars that used a steering box until recently (as in trucks, my '99 has the old steering stuff, not the fancy Rack & Pinion), and wishbone front suspension (as in trucks). Engine is the sturdy modular 4.6 V8 (crossplane design, love that exhaust burble :) My friend's 1978 Continental is still on the road, with only minor rust spots (in Canada) (god I love to drive that thing... big (21 feet unless I'm mistaking, a little bigger than my Grand Marquis LS), bigger engine (460), comfy as an old pair of shoes too :) Reminds me of my first car, a 10-year old 1979 Heritage Edition Tbird (351). Contis and Tbirds were the same platforms in that era... A/C stills works, even the *mechanical* clock... Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Jonno Guest Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford Taurus 1989 deliberately Being Disabled by old Boyf Rodan wrote: Quote: "Mariann" wrote: I am going to get the police on his butt. But I still need some answers to my questions. How do I find out what he is doing that only takes less than a minute that makes my car not start? Under the hood and under the trunk he's been. Thanks. ____________________________________________ How do you find out what he is doing? Just ask him. When you have him arrested, ask the police to bring him to your car before taking him to jail, to show you exactly what he did and to show you how to undo it. Also, sue him for all of the costs you incurred. But you won't have him arrested. Nor will you sue him. You are having too much fun keeping the drama going. You are his primary enabler because you keep rewarding him by communicating with him every time he commits another act of vandalism to get your attention. Good luck. Rodan. Crikey, arent you the psychologist. Shel'l do what she has to. Interfering with a vehicle is a criminal offence. I would make sure he gets what he deserves. As a lesson to other morons. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Lansing Small Guest Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Re: Ford cuts Super Duty production amid dispute with en On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 18:39:54 -0500, "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: Quote: You are free to believe whatever you choose. mike Sorry Mike...talking about freedom to believe or choose here... But is that not what the coming war with the Middle East and Iran is going to decide...?? To e-mail remove the X from my address... Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Tom Guest Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Lincoln electrics you can not condemn the vehicle for the owners poor maintenance practices. a 9 year old Lincoln limo is the states is still a new car. your boss has got to get his head out of his arse and spend some money on repairs, and then give the driver more than one key. "Jonno" <somewhere@inthecloud.com> wrote in message news:45efb60c$0$28625$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... Quote: I think the WOW factor is pretty honest. While the other opinion is a little prejudiced, mind you I'd find myself overwhelmed myself if I owned one. But this one left me in the middle of the big city, outside a large theatre waiting for an hour in the rain for a VIP, which was a KEY of all things. And my party was pretty sozzled by the time we got them home. They waited in a food plus drink place.... Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Tom Guest Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford cuts Super Duty production amid dispute with engine and i think i would put more effort into the fact that this is a ford newsgroup, not a toy yoder , or hunder, or nippon news group. if i wanted to read about jap cars, i would go to a jap car newsgroup. have you ever given any thought to the reason you are getting so worked up over senseless bullscrap is that people are baiting you for posting about jap cars in a ford newsgroup in the first place??? "dh" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message news:45ef9480$0$16272$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... Quote: "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message news:-5GdnWXB9NB67HLYnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@ptd.net... If you haven't purchased one of the new cars on the market today how can you say they which are good, or bad? One can have an opinion but one sure as hell can not compare what is on the market today with what was available on the market just five years ago, let alone ten years ago. Today every manufacturer is build good quality long lasting vehicles that can easily run trouble free to 200K given the proper preventive maintenance mike I think I'll put more faith in JDP and CR than in your blather. And they both agree, Ford is nowhere near Toyota for long-term reliability. Since switching to Toyotas, I've got more money in my pocket. I used to think Volvos were reliable and I was pretty happy with them but Toyota is on an entirely different - and better - level. "dh" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message news:45ef5a39$0$16401$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message news:DpidnbSOU52K0HLYnZ2dnUVZ_hisnZ2d@ptd.net... Who ever said Toyota builds shitty 4 cy engines, not me?. I know Toyota builds great engines. You bias is showing, you are the one calling others crap. I'll bet you have not driven any, let alone all, of those you calling crap. Since you are posting in a NG chances are you do not even own a late model vehicle Do you ever read what you write? You tell us, in an NG, that you own new and nearly new cars, yet NGs are for people who do not even own late model cars? Why don't you define "late model" for us? In any event, thanks to Toyota, I can get around, reliably, with an older car. My car (The one the kids do not touch) is an '00, so it's 7 years old. That's way older than I'd be willing to tolerate in a Ford. I'm saving tons of money and, when I do look for another car, it will be because my needs changed - or maybe just because I want a different car. When I owned a 3 year old Ford, I went shopping for another car because the Ford couldn't be trusted and I was getting rid of it. Like maybe in another couple years, I'll buy a new Rav. A buddy just got one; it's extremely nice. He bought it, in part, because he noticed I've had NO problems with my three Ravs. Or, maybe in another couple years, I'll buy another used Rav, maybe move up to an '05. I'll save some money and still get a car I can trust. What I said was there are plenty of vehicle on the market with V6 engine that do much better job of motivating the vehicle than do the 4cy engines in Toyotas, that cost as much or more, than those that have V6 engines. In comparison the Toyota are under powered. The 4cy Camry compared to others car its size with V6s, including the Camry V6, is a slug,. You can disagree if you choose but that is a fact. If one lives in hilly county as I do those V6 equipped vehicles will do as good or better than a 4cy in fuel mileages, since they do not need to be run down a gear or two to maintain the same speed on the same grades. That is a fact as well. I own a V6 vehicle that does no better on fuel, when I drive it in hilly country, than my V8 equipped vehicle over the same roads. Even though EPA for the V6 is 4 MPH higher that the V8. That is a fact as well, for the same reason. You are free to believe whatever you choose and spend you money however you choose. I could not care less mike e.teranews.com... "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message news:pq-dnU-tzYudn3LYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@ptd.net... Get real the 4 cy Camry is a slug. You must live it flat country, not driven some of the competitors V6 vehicles that cost less to drive home, or do not know many Toyota owners, if you think Toyotas have a lot of power. . LOL mike If your experience with I4 engines is in Fords, GMs and Crapslers, then I understand why you think a bigger motor is necessary, because their I4s are crap. Toyota, however, does not build shitty I4 engines. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor C. E. White Guest Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Fusion targets imports, for less less money "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:1173313042.433024.220520@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... Quote: Ed White wrote: As far as fuel economy, here are the CR averages - vehicle / overall / city / highway / 150 mile trip Camry 4 / 24 / 16 / 36 / 29 Camry V6 / 23 / 16 / 36 / 29 (seems unbelievable compared to the 4) The Mar. 2006 issue shows the highway MPG for the Camry V6 as 32, not 36. Whoops, you are right, the V-6 highway mileage reported by CR is 32, not 36. Sorry. The other numbers are correct, if unbelievable Did you mean the March 2007 issue? Quote: Fusion 4 / 23 / 15 / 32 / 27 Fusion V-6 AWD / 20 / 14 / 29 / 25 Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor C. E. White Guest Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford Fusion targets import champions "El Bandito" <abuseur@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:1l5Hh.26873$pi6.307875@weber.videotron.net... Quote: What is it with Ford front grilles anyways? Fusion, Edge, many more, they all have those fake chrome grilles that add nothing to the car's look (it looks like cheap bling-bling you would see on a Pimped Civic) Chrome is good, when it's tasteful. But it seems they overdesigned those parts... Just wondering... Toyota Trucks have similar grilles. Are theirs "tasteful? Ed Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor trainfan1 Guest Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: how can i tell if i have a 351? mark krawczuk wrote: Quote: hi , its a 1976. ltd thanks. mark "trainfan1" <lmsearing@usdatanet.net> wrote in message news:2JydnQ6mCNeh63LYnZ2dnUVZ_oTinZ2d@usadatanet.net... mark krawczuk wrote: hi, is there a simple way of telling if i have a 351 or a 302 engine ?, without taking the motor apart ? thanks, mark k What year car / engine? Rob 1976 302 Firing Order: 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 1976 351W/351C/400 Firing Order: 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 Rob Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor trainfan1 Guest Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: how can i tell if i have a 351? mark krawczuk wrote: Quote: hi, is there a simple way of telling if i have a 351 or a 302 engine ?, without taking the motor apart ? thanks, mark k 1976 302 Firing Order: 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 1976 351W/351C/400 Firing Order: 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 Rob Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Robert Guest Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: To Keep, or Not To Keep On Feb 22, 8:02 am, "Robert" <kraft....@gmail.com> wrote: Quote: Here's the latest update: We've decided to take the Mercury and sell the V70XC (thanks for all the advice, guys). We're getting it titled tomorrow, and taking the V70XC to CarMax sometime soon...I'll update with whatever we get for it. We're looking for something in the $7,000-8,000 range -- we paid $9,000 for the car a little less than two years ago, and we've only put on 6,000 miles, so it seems pretty reasonable. Look for an update soon! OK, long-due update 2: CarMax offered us only $2500...apparently, and I quote, "AWD Volvos aren't currently in demand." This is the day after we have about half a foot of snow. Oh well. So now we're going to attempt to sell it private-party ourselves. Anyone interested? We're looking in the $7500+ range. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor toerag Guest Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: MI5 Persecution: Stand up for Free Speech 14/8/95 (976) fat bitch wrote: Quote: theres twice as many hlg are the real culprits Damn them hlg, bad as top posting bastards. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Jonno Guest Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Lincoln electrics I reckon I mighta told him that. But vehicle locks on other major car manufacturers woud be better than this. I have a 21 year old Honda and its got no problems,and they feel solid. Not the Ford Lincoln. Its real crap. The electric windows winders and the other electrics are also troublesome. Tom wrote: Quote: you can not condemn the vehicle for the owners poor maintenance practices. a 9 year old Lincoln limo is the states is still a new car. your boss has got to get his head out of his arse and spend some money on repairs, and then give the driver more than one key. "Jonno" <somewhere@inthecloud.com> wrote in message news:45efb60c$0$28625$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... I think the WOW factor is pretty honest. While the other opinion is a little prejudiced, mind you I'd find myself overwhelmed myself if I owned one. But this one left me in the middle of the big city, outside a large theatre waiting for an hour in the rain for a VIP, which was a KEY of all things. And my party was pretty sozzled by the time we got them home. They waited in a food plus drink place.... Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Mike Hunter Guest Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:08 am    Post subject: Re: Ford cuts Super Duty production amid dispute with engine Can't prove it by me. After switching from the Toyota/Lexus models, I previously bought, to Fore/Lincoln I now buy, my account tells me I have saved so many thousands dollars since 1999 that my last three vehicles were basically free ;) mike "dh" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message news:45ef9480$0$16272$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... Quote: "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message news:-5GdnWXB9NB67HLYnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@ptd.net... If you haven't purchased one of the new cars on the market today how can you say they which are good, or bad? One can have an opinion but one sure as hell can not compare what is on the market today with what was available on the market just five years ago, let alone ten years ago. Today every manufacturer is build good quality long lasting vehicles that can easily run trouble free to 200K given the proper preventive maintenance mike I think I'll put more faith in JDP and CR than in your blather. And they both agree, Ford is nowhere near Toyota for long-term reliability. Since switching to Toyotas, I've got more money in my pocket. I used to think Volvos were reliable and I was pretty happy with them but Toyota is on an entirely different - and better - level. 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